I HEARD A VOICE FROM HEAVEN, Part Four
By Dr. Henry C. Kinley
Dr. Kinley gave this lecture in Los Angeles, California. Part Four of his lecture covers the error in performing carnal ordinances in the Age of Grace. A copy of the tape was transcribed by Dr. BJaie Gordon, Treasurer of the Downtown Chicago Branch School, June 1986. NOTE: Although the True Names were revealed to Dr. Kinley in a vision in 1931, he used Lord, God, and Jesus Christ until he published Elohim, The Archetype Original Pattern of the Universe in 1961. Minor editorial changes also have been made for clarity and to preserve the flow of thought.
How are men turning His grace into works?
No wonder Jude said:"... it was needful for me to write unto you and exhort you that you should earnestly contend for the Faith which was once delivered unto the saints (Jud. 1:3)," and I know those who are seventy years old, who are ordained into this condemnation, who have gone out into the World, crept in unawares, and turned the Grace of Our God into lasciviousness (Jud. 1:4)...
They have turned Grace into works Works of Righteousness! Theyre telling you to get baptized and get your feet washed and [perform] all these Carnal Ordinances that were under the Old Covenant (Jer. 31:31-34).
Thats what Hes done. He's hidden these things from the Wise and the Prudent (I Cor. 1:19).
And now were offering up Spiritual Sacrifices (Heb. 13:1) ... in the Kingdom of God that is Spiritual (Lk. 18:1). You are controlled by the Law of the Spirit (Rom. 8:1-3). It was the Tables of Stone [that Israel was supposed to follow under the Old Covenant.] Paul just said thats how He hid these things from the Wise and the Prudent and revealed them unto Babes. And Paul puts it this way in the 8th Chapter of Romans, There is, therefore, now no condemnation for them who are in the Messiah ...'
[Dr. Kinley changes his train of thought here and begins to talk about how time is short and how urgently we need to be saved. He returns to Rom. 8:1-2 two paragraphs later.]
Will anyone be saved?
LISTEN TO ME! Yeah, I CANT HELP YOU. [You will] be in Heaven or Hell, REAL SOON! Now THIS AGE IS JUST ABOUT TO CLOSE. The first one was sixteen hundred and fifty-six [years long], and this [age is] in [its] nineteen thirty-second [year from Pentecost]! (33 A.D. + 1932 years = 1965 A.D.) We were not in the one BEFORE [the second age in time]! And the Messiah said in the 24th chapter of Matthew, ... EXCEPT THOSE DAYS BE SHORTENED, no flesh would be saved. ... If you have to give, you have to give by Faith, for you to have this. ... the words have GOT TO come by Faith. YOU HAVE TO SEE HOW ITS PUT TOGETHER! ITS HAS TO BECOME A REALITY IN YOU! YOU HAVE TO KNOW HOW IT WORKS, YOU HAVE TO FEEL THE SPIRIT WORKING WITHIN YOU! IT HAS TO BE A REALITY WITHIN YOU, THATS IMPERATIVE ... YOU HAVE TO KNOW IT FOR YOURSELF!! The big shots and the leaders of Christendom... YOU HAVE TO KNOW THIS THING FOR YOURSELF! IT HAS TO BE A FACT ... WITHIN YOU! YOU, INDIVIDUALLY AND PERSONALLY!! ITS YOU THATS HAS TO BE SAVED!
Should we listen to the crowd or the voice from heaven?
We dont care anything about the multitudes and what they say. You know that it was hidden from the wise and prudent and Revealed through the Babe. And all of this natural [work], wherever theyre doing footwashing and everything ... all of this carnality and all of this is natural. And all of this over on this side [after Pentecost] is Spiritual. And thats what the boys cant see. And they call themselves celebrating the things that were done under the Law. GOD HIMSELF SAID, GOD SAID IT ... I DIDNT SAY IT. And thats the thing Im trying to tell you about now!
I HEARD THAT VOICE FROM HEAVEN, CONFIRMING, and it showed me how it operated all the way through [eternity]. And thats the reason why Im GAME enough to get out here and talk [about] it and tell you about it how. Hes hidden the things from the wise and prudent, and revealed it unto Babes. [Now Dr. Kinley returns to his train of thought in Romans 8.]
How do you get into the Messiahs body?
And the Apostle Paul said in the 8th Chapter of Romans, "THERE IS, THEREFORE, NOW, NO CONDEMNATION to them that are in Christ Jesus ..." How did you get in [Jesus Christs body?] He said in I Corinthians 12:13: "... by ONE Spirit are ye all baptized into the one body, whether you be Jews or Gentile" ... NOT BY WATER BAPTISM!!! And you know they use water baptism as what...Jesus said...[that you should do for repentance] ...: "He that believeth on me, as the Scriptures hath said, out of his belly shall flow RIVERS OF LIVING WATERS (John 7:38-39)!"
Dont you know the difference between living water and that that flows behind the pool? John said: "... this spake He of the Spirit..." [It was] shown to me ... [I] got away from that natural and into the Spirit, and theres where the smart boys got lost.
And so now, here we are PREACHING THE REMISSION OF SIN... AT THE END OF THE AGE! And Joel wrote and Luke said, ...the remission of sins should be preached in His Name, beginning at Jerusalem (Acts 2:38). You can wash all the skin off of your [body], drag yourself through the Pacific and the Atlantic Oceans and it is not going to do you any good. [The Israelites] tried to offer up a bullock ... turtledove, it DIDNT purify them ... or, it didnt purify the conscience that was under that Dispensation back there.
Does the Messiahs blood make a man free?
And Paul said: "...HOW MUCH MORE shall the Blood of Yahshua the Messiah purge your conscience FROM DEAD WORKS (Heb. 9:14)"... THATS THE SACRIFICE THAT GOD HAS GIVEN!! The Gospel said He shed His Blood ... out there on Golgotha. He offered Himself without spot to purge your conscience FROM DEAD WORKS, [such as,] water baptism and ... physical suppers that were under the other covenant. They [baptisms and suppers] pointed to Spiritual things (Rom. 1:19-20).
Is the kingdom of God physical?
And now Hes nailed them [works of the Mosaic Law] to the Cross (Col. 1:14-16). The Kingdom of God back [then] stood only in meats and drinks. But now on this side [during the Present Age of Grace], Paul tells us that ...the Kingdom of God is not meats and drinks... Well, if its not that, just what is it? Its Righteousness, Peace and Joy in the Holy Ghost (Rom. 9:17).
And Jesus said Himself that YE masticate in your mouth, and it passes on down the esophagus and on down into your stomach and its digested and assimilatedand your intestinal tract passes it on to the abdominal cavity and on into your bloodstream (Matt. 16:9). Thats for the physical body. Well, Im not talking about that. Im talking about your inner-self, THAT INNER MAN, which is the Holy Ghost (Eph. 3:16). You have to have some different bread than that (Deut. 8:3).
As the Messiah told em, all your fathers ate that bread in the Wilderness, but theyre dead. But if you eat the Bread that I shall give, ye shall not die (John 6:48-51). And this water that youre talking about, IF YOU DRINK, YOULL NEVER THIRST (John 7:38-39). Were talking about Spiritual things, and the Devil is standing there talking about physical things. Hes saying that you have to do these things, and blaming it on the Messiah.
Did the Messiah tell us to perform ordinances for salvation?
[The devil wants to convince you that the Messiah] said go and baptize somebody in physical water. He never said anything about it. He said, ...baptize them in the Name ..., He didnt say baptize them in water.
... you call yourself eating the Lords Supper on the first of every month. Paul said, LET US KEEP the feast of unleavened bread of sincerity and truth (1 Cor. 5:17-18). Im feeding you that Bread which ... [is the] Word of God.
Im baptizing you in the Name and Im washing your feet [with] the Washing of Regeneration and Im Preaching the Gospel [which] is YAHSHUA the Messiah. EVERYTHING that is done is all done in His Name. Hes a Quickening Spirit (Heb. 12:4) and Hes in your heart and in my heart.
How are we saved under the New Covenant?
You cant do anything [to be saved]. Its not by Works of Righteousness, which we have done or will do. But by His Grace are you saved through Faith, and that not of yourself. ITS A GIFT, FREELY given of Godyou dont merit anything.
Somebody may say, well, obedience is better than sacrifice (1 Sam. 15:22), He said go out here and get baptized in the water. If it was good enough for Him, when John baptized Him, its good enough for me (Matt. 3:13-15). DONT PUT A LIE LIKE THAT ON HIM. HE DIDNT SAY IT!! LISTEN FOLKS, HE COULDNT COME AND FULFILL AND ABOLISH THE CARNAL ORDINANCES, which were under the First covenant, then send somebody out to do the things that were done under the Old Covenant! YOURE A LIAR, HE NEVER NEVER SENT ANY ONE TO DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT! He never told ANY ONE TO BAPTIZE ANY ONE, He never told any one to eat the Lords Supper, He never told any one to keep the Passover. He never told any one to wash any ones feet!
Did the Messiah wash His disciples feet?
Somebody may say, well, you cant read. Cant you see here in the 13th Chapter of Saint John, when Jesus is washing His Disciples feet. He said to them, If I be your Lord and Master, and have washed your feet, ye also ought to wash one anothers feet (John 13:14). And He got around to ole Pete, and... Peter looked up at Him and said ... youll never wash my feet. The Messiah said, IF I DONT WASH em, you wont have a part with me. And that was physical water that He used to wash their feet, and there are some parties out there that are celebrating washing feet, because Jesus washed the Disciples feet, and the Papacy, over there, they celebrate washing feet. But when He... got to Peter there, He told him, If I DONT wash your feet, you wont have a part with me.
Was the Messiah fulfilling Moses?
He [Yahshua the Messiah] has to fulfill that Law! Moses brought Aaron, Nadab and Abihu to the door of the Tabernacle and washed them there. He put the linen garments on them BEFORE they could officiate in the Tabernacle (Exo. 40:30-32). And so now, if Hes going to fulfill it, He [Yahshua the Messiah] has got to wash their feet. If He doesnt, they wont have a part, or Life in that Ministry. And Hes got to fulfill it, and so now when He got around to Peter, Peter said, Youll never wash my feet. He told Peter, ...you dont know what Im doing. Now... yes, Peter DID KNOW that He was washing their feet. He said, youre never gonna wash my feet, but Peter DIDNT UNDERSTAND the significance of it.
LISTEN FOLKS, THAT WAS THE WORD OF GOD AND HE WAS FULFILLING THE LAW AND THE PROPHECY. AND ITS THE WORD OF GOD THATS WASHING HIS FEET! And so, if the Word of God DOESNT wash you, youll NEVER be clean. And Ive got to go there ... [He] told Peter ... you dont know what Im doing now, but you shall know hereafter.
Are we washed by the word?
And when Peter got the Holy Ghost on the Day of Pentecost, [he understood the meaning of being washed by the word (John 15:3).] Paul says, look here, HUSBANDS LOVE YOUR WIVES (Eph. 5:25). The Messiah so loved the Church, that He gave Himself for itthat He might sanctify and cleanse it, by the washing of the water...by the Word.
IT IS THE WASHING OF REGENERATION and HE IS THE REGENERATOR. IT IS THE WORD OF GOD. SO NOW IM PREACHING TO YOU THE WORD OF GOD, and you are clean through the water which I have spoken unto you (John 7:38-39). I can wash you all day long down here, with a basin and some water, I can drag you through ... as I said, the Pacific and the Atlantic oceans, but you are saved [by grace through faith, not by works (Eph. 2:8-9).]
Did Philip baptize the eunuch in water?
In one of those times somebody said... you cant read. Cant you see over there in the 8th Chapter of the Acts of the Apostles, where Philip baptized the Ethiopian eunuch (Acts 8:36-38)? It is written that the eunuch stopped the chariot ... and said heres waterWhat did Jesus reveal?and Philip said to him, if you believe with all your heart, thou mayest. And he stopped and both Philip and the eunuch went down into PHYSICAL water--and Philip DID baptize in water.
Now somebody may wonder whether Philip was carrying out the Great Commission (Matt. 28:19-20)NOW SIT STILL FOLKS!Philip was not carrying out the Great Commission in Matthew 28:19, when He said, Go in all the World and preach the Gospel to every creature. He that believeth on Me and is baptized shall be saved, and he that believeth not shall be damned. ...baptizing in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost...
Have you been baptised in water or the name?
NO ONE sitting under the sound of my voice has been baptized in water, [but] in the Name of YAHWEH. EVERYONE sitting under the sound of my voice has been baptized in the Name of ELOHIM. EVERYONE sitting under the sound of my voice has been baptized in the Name of YAHSHUA.
They told you to go out and get baptized in the name of Jesus, and in the name of the Father Godand they told you to get baptized in the Name of the Holy Ghostand they didnt know what those names were. And so, lets get on to offend you. Now listen here, the Messiah sent the twelve out to preach.
Were deacons different from Apostles?
Now look here, I want you to notice the difference now. Those were Deacons that was chosen by them to serve faithfully (Acts 6:2-5). The Master, before He ascended, told the eleven thereJudas was dead ...You shall be witnesses unto me in Judea, and in Jerusalem and Samaria... (Acts 1:5)! NOW, WATCH NOW. WATCH THE JOKE. Watch the joker. He said, they would be witnesses unto Him.
... Philip went down to Samaria and he preached the Gospel to the whole city of Samaria, and he was FULL of the Holy Ghost, too (Acts 8:5). But now, none in Samaria received the Holy Ghost, so said the letter (Acts 8:14-16). Well, whats the matter? Why didnt they get the Holy Ghost down there? Samaria was the capital of the ten tribes. And now, the Messiah has put the twelve tribes back together again, and they are the witnesses, the ones that He sent to preach the Gospel.
Philip wasnt sent. He was persecuted and ran off there to escape the persecution. He went down to Samaria and preached... Since no one received the Holy Ghost down in Samaria, then, WHY SHOULD YOU ASSUME that the eunuch GOT THE HOLY GHOST when Philip baptized him? And now, not only that, Philip was on his way home. He wasnt going in all the world to preach the Gospel. Philip LIVED in Caesarea. And Philip went on away from Gaza, after he baptized the Ethiopian eunuch in water there and he went on to Caesarea (Acts 8:26, 39-40).
Did an Apostle or deacon bring the Gentiles into the body?
By and by, when it was time for the Gentiles to come into His body, down in Caesarea, God told Cornelius to go on up there to Joppa and get Peter (Acts 10th Chapter). Now, if Philip was carrying out the Great Commissionand he lived right across the street from Cornelius and his household, why didnt he go across there and baptize them? Why didnt God send him [Philip] on up there to Joppa? And just as Peter went down there at Caesarea, then Peter spoke it. Now the Holy Ghost fell on the Gentiles.
God was bringing them [the Gentiles] in according to the Promise He made to Abraham. He told Abraham that in his seed, He would bless all the families of the Earth (Gen. 22:18; Gal. 3:14-16). And have you forgotten that I have told you that only Jews were baptized in the Red Sea, and only Jews were baptized at Johns baptism? So then, there can only be Jews that had any water about them. And in that planting, when the Seed of Vegetation was brought up, in the llth Chapter of Romans, Paul said that ...the Gentiles ARE GRAFTED ON IN... How does that happen? GRAFTED IN BY FAITH (Rom. 11:16-21)AND NOT BY PLANTING (Rom. 6:1-5), but by GRAFTINGaccording to the Promise ... God wasnt mistakened by pouring out the Spirit on them, while he yet spoke there.
How did Dr. Kinley know all these things?
Now God showed me all these things in a Vision. And all these things that these preachers are doing ... They have someone hanging around taking some crackers and grape juice on plates and running someone up in here and blaming it all on the Messiah. He did not say anything about it. And listen, you havent got anything, and, YOURE NOT GONNA GET ANYTHING until you straighten up. And thats in the space of this Cloud [your mind]. You say, yes, yes, I know thats what you mean!
It was revealed to me that thats what its all about, thats why this School was founded. See, theyre not going to let you know anything about Yahshua the Messiah. And I have carried it on down, in what Ive been saying to you. Ive carried it on down and you can take it right on back.
Does blood, water, and Spirit point to the Messiah?
Cant you see, theres the blood ... when the last one rose up from the dead, and Yahshua the Messiah was here, and poured out the Holy Spirit ... this is where the Covenant was revealed on the Day of Pentecost. See, you got the blood, water, spirit, blood, water, spirit, BLOOD, WATER... just keep it that way, always, ALWAYS, clear on down unto THIS YEAR. IT DOESNT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE WHERE YOU COME FROM, youre wrong!
Does the Holy Spirit predict accurately?
And let me tell you something, friend, WE DONT MAKE MISTAKES here, and were not guessing about it. And, what I have seen, I HAVE SEEN, and to prove it to you, every prediction... I really, I dont make predictions, its the Holy Spirit. Im just showing you how the repetitions come up... and thats how I can tell you when its going to be an earthquake, or, what the next thing is to happen.
I never failed ... I never miss it. And then somebody may say, I dont believe it. I know all of that. Says, well now, youve done a good job, you just let me preach it. But now, God has RAISED me up. Theyve been healed of all kinds of diseases. EVEN THE DEAD HAVE BEEN RAISED! We got medical authorities from all over this countryand YOU DONT KNOW ANYONELISTEN, Ive told you I was sick YOU DONT KNOW ANYONE that says they know someone that knows about whats going on in the World, for thirty-five years, thats what I have. NO ONE, no one...run right on between Life and Death... one verses the other.
What events did Dr. Kinley prophesy?
I told you when Cardinal Stritch would draw his last breath... standing in the pulpit. Youre an eye witness. Didnt he die that instant? I told you about Pope John the 23rd, I told you when he would die, a year before time (see Text, "Elohim, the Archetype Original Pattern of the Universe," Vol. IV, p. 61). I told you that Pope Pius the 12th, would tell a lie, and what the lie would be. Didnt I tell you before he lied?
[NOTE TO THE READER: on November 1, 1950 (33 years after the Miracle of Fatima in 1917, see Appendix II of The Third World War by Lee Warren), Pope Pius XII decreed the following:
"By the authority of Lord Jesus Christ of the Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul, and by our own authority, we pronounce, declare, define as Divine dogma: The Immaculate Mother of God, Mary ever Virgin, after her life on earth, was assumed body and soul to the glory of Heaven. The Catholic Catechism by John A. Hardon, S. J., pp. 149-171."]
And didnt he tell it? See, Ive told you what has happened all along. Children, Im sincere about that, Im interested. See, all Im trying to do is give you, what God has given to me. If you dont want it, its your fault.
Did the voice from heaven speak?
But truthfully, I HEARD THAT VOICE FROM HEAVEN, I heard that Voice ... the
Glory that was sent from Christ, all in my MindAND I WAS SENT, in this last day, JUST BEFORE the curtain IS GOING DOWN to show you the Reality of it! And I hope and trust that you would take it for what its worth and investigate some of it.
Theres no need for all those sayings. Well, they preach that down ... there, to me and I do it, the Bishops and Christians in the World, havent forgive me for teaching that, and then they got you believing it. And the medical authorities reports, in the World, learn now that you have it. Isnt that right Christian universities and the little boysit just cant be done.
God is a Living Reality! Its here now, in you, whether youre conscious of it or not. Its here, in the bed, when youre home, when youre at work. And listen, there is but One Mediator between God and Man, and that is the Quickening Spirit, and that is God, Himself. Theres no bogus claim. Im no bogus claim. No hocus [pocus] and no preaching those Carnal Ordinances, nothing like that ... no bogus claim. Its that Quickening Spirit, its the Holy Spirit in you, THAT, IS THE ONLY HOPE OF IMMORTAL GLORY.
God Bless You.
NOTE: This 90-minute tape is one of a set of lectures
entitled I Heard A Voice From Heaven given by the Founder and Dean, Dr. Henry Clifford Kinley, of the Institute of Divine Metaphysical Research, Inc. if there is anyone, anywhere, that possesses more of these tapes, please, contact me at the address below. Myself and many others would like to hear these lectures.
This transcript was given out October 10, 1986 at the Downtown Chicago Fall Seminar.
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